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Post by WillyJakkz (HOU) on Oct 11, 2013 12:18:10 GMT -5
I don't see how any team over the cap wouldn't support this as TE's are only applicable to them while it seems like teams w low payroll or projected payroll are against this.
I think TE's need to be implemented into the League if realism is the goal, otherwise it's basically a straight up trading/ sim game while TE's would help guys learn how to GM teams in more in-depth details.
And as you can tell I'm still for it and the only reasons I see for GM's being against it is "it may get too complicated,", no "the rich will get richer" arguments, etc just "it may get too complicated". If OP is knowledgeable enough to bring up the topic and also volunteering to track it I'd think he's capable of calculating TE's imo.
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Post by jestor on Oct 11, 2013 16:43:32 GMT -5
Sorry, but the thing about teams with low payroll being against this is a false equivalency here. While that may be true in this particular league, in other leagues I'm in where this issue has come up, I'm over the cap. And while there's no the rich will get richer arguments, the arguments of the TE's complexity implicitly have the notion that the rich will get richer built into them, or, to put it more bluntly, the smarter will get more dominant. Frankly, I'm one of those who would most benefit from a TE once I'm over the cap because of how carefully I track my finances in each league, both in the short term, and the long run.
And I think I've been in three, maybe four leagues where this idea has come up. It gets shot down everytime, and with good reason.
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Post by jestor on Oct 11, 2013 16:50:32 GMT -5
I see. I guess we don't have enough support for that. What about the minimum deals one? That I'm actually fine with, given there's no complications with it. In fact, it's also possible to just trade cap space for picks/players and have the team absorbing the picks/players not send anything back. At least that's the case in DDS 1, but you have to be in commish mode to do it. Not sure about 3. I know one league I co-commish, we've adopted the rule that teams can trade cap space if they're able to absorb the entirety of the salaries being sent their way. |
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Post by orangeparka (MIA) on Oct 11, 2013 18:36:09 GMT -5
I see. I guess we don't have enough support for that. What about the minimum deals one? That I'm actually fine with, given there's no complications with it. In fact, it's also possible to just trade cap space for picks/players and have the team absorbing the picks/players not send anything back. At least that's the case in DDS 1, but you have to be in commish mode to do it. Not sure about 3. I know one league I co-commish, we've adopted the rule that teams can trade cap space if they're able to absorb the entirety of the salaries being sent their way. I like that idea as well. |
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Post by bt (TOR) on Oct 15, 2013 3:16:07 GMT -5
I don't see how any team over the cap wouldn't support this as TE's are only applicable to them while it seems like teams w low payroll or projected payroll are against this. I think TE's need to be implemented into the League if realism is the goal, otherwise it's basically a straight up trading/ sim game while TE's would help guys learn how to GM teams in more in-depth details. And as you can tell I'm still for it and the only reasons I see for GM's being against it is "it may get too complicated,", no "the rich will get richer" arguments, etc just "it may get too complicated". If OP is knowledgeable enough to bring up the topic and also volunteering to track it I'd think he's capable of calculating TE's imo. Teams under the cap get exceptions like any other (they can put teams over the cap, be renounced, etc) so it's not just a decision for those over the cap. Personally I think they could add to any league but the issues that can arise from them are just not worth it. |
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Post by orangeparka (MIA) on Oct 15, 2013 3:43:26 GMT -5
I don't see how any team over the cap wouldn't support this as TE's are only applicable to them while it seems like teams w low payroll or projected payroll are against this. I think TE's need to be implemented into the League if realism is the goal, otherwise it's basically a straight up trading/ sim game while TE's would help guys learn how to GM teams in more in-depth details. And as you can tell I'm still for it and the only reasons I see for GM's being against it is "it may get too complicated,", no "the rich will get richer" arguments, etc just "it may get too complicated". If OP is knowledgeable enough to bring up the topic and also volunteering to track it I'd think he's capable of calculating TE's imo. Teams under the cap get exceptions like any other (they can put teams over the cap, be renounced, etc) so it's not just a decision for those over the cap. Personally I think they could add to any league but the issues that can arise from them are just not worth it. Moved your other post into the other existing thread. Closing this one for now. |
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