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Post by kgdobby (OKC) on Feb 8, 2014 10:49:21 GMT -5
Circling around to this, I'd be in favor of this if it didn't come down to one player agent making the decision. If the player agent decides on a squad person panel that would approve or reject the decision, especially in the case of a premier player leaving his own squad for another.
Might be a little bureaucratic, but I hate the idea one a singular "agent" who hasn't been in the league for more than 6 months messing up my team without some of the more senior members and myself, as an appealing party, having a say
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Post by orangeparka (MIA) on Feb 8, 2014 11:00:06 GMT -5
Circling around to this, I'd be in favor of this if it didn't come down to one player agent making the decision. If the player agent decides on a squad person panel that would approve or reject the decision, especially in the case of a premier player leaving his own squad for another. Might be a little bureaucratic, but I hate the idea one a singular "agent" who hasn't been in the league for more than 6 months messing up my team without some of the more senior members and myself, as an appealing party, having a say I'm sure there'd be a set of rules/system in place for appeals and that sort of stuff. It wouldn't be so absolute like that. |
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Post by jake0890 (MIN) on Feb 8, 2014 11:08:09 GMT -5
Circling around to this, I'd be in favor of this if it didn't come down to one player agent making the decision. If the player agent decides on a squad person panel that would approve or reject the decision, especially in the case of a premier player leaving his own squad for another. Might be a little bureaucratic, but I hate the idea one a singular "agent" who hasn't been in the league for more than 6 months messing up my team without some of the more senior members and myself, as an appealing party, having a say An appeal system or council is a bad idea, imo. We've got to respect that the agents know what they're doing and you can't second guess them just because you lost your player. Myles and Dylan have already said that they will review all decisions and and they'll make sure everything is up to par. Once we all start second guessing and appealing these agents is when the whole system falls apart. Everyone has to accept these guys as the decision makers now, or it's going to blow up. |
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Post by kgdobby (OKC) on Feb 8, 2014 11:12:25 GMT -5
Circling around to this, I'd be in favor of this if it didn't come down to one player agent making the decision. If the player agent decides on a squad person panel that would approve or reject the decision, especially in the case of a premier player leaving his own squad for another. Might be a little bureaucratic, but I hate the idea one a singular "agent" who hasn't been in the league for more than 6 months messing up my team without some of the more senior members and myself, as an appealing party, having a say An appeal system or council is a bad idea, imo. We've got to respect that the agents know what they're doing and you can't second guess them just because you lost your player. Myles and Dylan have already said that they will review all decisions and and they'll make sure everything is up to par. Once we all start second guessing and appealing these agents is when the whole system falls apart. Everyone has to accept these guys as the decision makers now, or it's going to blow up. Yeah in the case I give this a resounding "No". People make stupid decisions with players in this league every day, and I won't be effected by someone else's stupid decision to take away my players. |
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Post by jake0890 (MIN) on Feb 8, 2014 11:15:48 GMT -5
An appeal system or council is a bad idea, imo. We've got to respect that the agents know what they're doing and you can't second guess them just because you lost your player. Myles and Dylan have already said that they will review all decisions and and they'll make sure everything is up to par. Once we all start second guessing and appealing these agents is when the whole system falls apart. Everyone has to accept these guys as the decision makers now, or it's going to blow up. Yeah in the case I give this a resounding "No". People make stupid decisions with players in this league every day, and I won't be effected by someone else's stupid decision to take away my players. Then it sounds like you don't want player agents whatsoever. Someone is going to be upset either way. |
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Post by Sun Scorched (CHA) on Feb 8, 2014 11:17:33 GMT -5
Agreed.
Sometimes you're the Heat. Sometimes you're the Cavs.
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Post by dennisj (BOS) on Feb 8, 2014 11:22:33 GMT -5
Agreed. Sometimes you're the Heat. Sometimes you're the Cavs. And most of the time you are going to be Mark Cuban. |
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Post by Sun Scorched (CHA) on Feb 8, 2014 12:25:09 GMT -5
Agreed. Sometimes you're the Heat. Sometimes you're the Cavs. And most of the time you are going to be Mark Cuban. Haha! So true! |
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Post by jinx (CLE) on Feb 8, 2014 15:30:47 GMT -5
I'm in favour of this as long as the right people are in charge otherwise it will be a complete disaster. Player profiles should be implemented when making decisions and all franchises should be treated equally in terms of market size for it to work. At no point for example should Kyrie Irving decide to sign for let's say the Lakers because they are a 'big' market. You start doing that and it's game over for this league. The way the GAH league does this is pretty much perfect and that should be the model to follow. All players have desires that drive their personalities such as money, winning or playing time and that should decide where they go. Not some fictitious crap from some 'big' market team who get an advantage because of some string of code in the game.
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Post by Sun Scorched (CHA) on Feb 8, 2014 15:43:30 GMT -5
Well said Jinx.
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Post by LakeshowAK7 (LAL) on Feb 8, 2014 15:53:02 GMT -5
I'm in favour of this as long as the right people are in charge otherwise it will be a complete disaster. Player profiles should be implemented when making decisions and all franchises should be treated equally in terms of market size for it to work. At no point for example should Kyrie Irving decide to sign for let's say the Lakers because they are a 'big' market. You start doing that and it's game over for this league. The way the GAH league does this is pretty much perfect and that should be the model to follow. All players have desires that drive their personalities such as money, winning or playing time and that should decide where they go. Not some fictitious crap from some 'big' market team who get an advantage because of some string of code in the game. Well said. But trust me, you don't have to worry about Kyrie signing in LA, we have a better PG anyways  |
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Post by jinx (CLE) on Feb 8, 2014 16:07:40 GMT -5
I'm in favour of this as long as the right people are in charge otherwise it will be a complete disaster. Player profiles should be implemented when making decisions and all franchises should be treated equally in terms of market size for it to work. At no point for example should Kyrie Irving decide to sign for let's say the Lakers because they are a 'big' market. You start doing that and it's game over for this league. The way the GAH league does this is pretty much perfect and that should be the model to follow. All players have desires that drive their personalities such as money, winning or playing time and that should decide where they go. Not some fictitious crap from some 'big' market team who get an advantage because of some string of code in the game. Well said. But trust me, you don't have to worry about Kyrie signing in LA, we have a better PG anyways Haha I know, Calderon isn't as good as Westbrook...... the Lakers are the best example though |
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Post by Myles (SAS) on Feb 9, 2014 20:43:46 GMT -5
To answer some of the concerns:
1) Every agent is a trusted, loyal, and committed GM of this league. There are no outside agents, there are no agents that we do not absolutely have full confidence in.
2) To top that off, myself and Dylan are overseeing every single signing. If there is even one dubious signing, we will investigate the agent in question and there will be consequences if foul play is indeed involved.
3) There is a strict system in place that involves the players profile, and that + the actual offer itself will be the only things considered during negotiation. The agents are also being encouraged to be fully open with GMs about what the player wants, if that team has a chance of signing them, how their offer stacks up, etc.
4) There will be no appeal system. If you have concerns about a signing, PM myself and Dylan and we will investigate. This system hinges on the community trusting the two of us to make the right choices and do the right thing.
5) All of the agents have been in the league since the first season, and were handpicked by myself and Dylan because we think they are completely 100% trustworthy and smart.
6) Stated before but making it more explicit, the only things being considered are the players personality ratings (which can be found on the player page in game) and the contract being offered to said player.
7) If we did not ask you to be an agent, it is not because we do not find you trustworthy and smart (if you weren't those two things, you probably wouldn't be in the league). It is nothing personal. We just asked the people we thought were best suited for the job.
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Post by bt (TOR) on Feb 10, 2014 0:35:42 GMT -5
I'm 50/50 on it for all the reasons already mentioned but I guess it can't hurt to try it. It's more effort though even for the GMs if they just preferred sending in a file and that was it.
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Post by bt (TOR) on Feb 10, 2014 0:36:26 GMT -5
Will you guys be tracking promises in a spreadsheet or something? Like a GM promises minutes or a spot and doesn't deliver.
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